Recently Logic9 would lock up on me after entering a qso. I disabled qrz.com (I do not have a subscription) and the problem went away.

Has QRZ.com made a change? Anyone else noticing this?

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

There is some problem with the javascript on qrz.com. Sometimes, if I wait long enough, I get a SCRIPT TIMEOUT ERROR. On the other hand, I ran a batch of 25 or so and no problems.

Anyway, QRZ.COM is not made to be accessed programmatically. There is no way to disable JavaScript from the web browser control without disabling it for all Internet Explorer options. I am working on just downloading the raw HTML, but that is easier said than done because of maintaining your login status.

The solution is to use hamqth.com. It is XML (like QRZ Subscription), and is free. It seems to have all the DX. You can always put QRZ.COM after it in the callbook setup so it will be called if per chance hamqth.com doesn't have the callsign you are querying.

Tnx & 73,

Dennis WN4AZY

Hi Rich--

The problem is not on your end or your Java update. Java and JavaScript are two different things. The problem is solely with qrz.com.

The FCC data being old, that's disturbing. I sent them a note.

Tnx & 73,

Dennis WN4AZY

Hi All,

I just want to add that I do have a subscription to QRZ and it is working just fine for me. I have it as the number one place to look when looking up a call. I do have very fast internet.

73,

Bill
W7OO

G'Day Dan,

Yep - happens too often for the QRZ.COM web based call book to be useful.

QRZ comes in two forms - one based on "web pages" and HTML and "who knows what" other stuff, and one based on a "subscription" that uses XML formatted data using a simple reliable Internet protocol.

Both work over the Internet, but only the "subscription" based service is "reliable".

What do we mean by "reliable"? That the process will remain the same - always.

The web page based process is subject to change more often than you might think. QRZ, or the company providing their hosting, or the company providing the web server, or the company providing their processing software, or the people updating the actual QRZ pages, may change the software which results in subtle changes to the web process. These unannounced changes - whatever they might be - cause problems for Logic when using the web-based process - problems totally unrelated to Logic.

The same can be said for the browser software on your PC that Logic uses as an intermediary to retrieve data from the "web based" QRZ. Changes in it can affect the process.

Your Internet connection speed is also a factor in this whole process. Data travelling on the Internet has a specific "time to live". If your Internet connection is too slow, for whatever reason, data dies, never to be seen by Logic, which "stalls" waiting for the data that will never arrive.

Clearly QRZ wants to sell subscriptions - so the XML subscription interface is simple, and rarely changes, if ever.

The databases at each end do not come into play at all - it is the "internet protocol" part that is the problem.

You are fine with Logic 8 - your only problem is that updates are no longer being supplied. Logic9 is now several years old, and the only version for which updates are now created.

Your best course of action, in decreasing order or merit, is ...

Disable QRZ.COM
Use a local CD/DVD call book
Use the free subscription to HamQTH - may not be available in Logic8.
Use the QRZ XML subscription
Update to Logic9 and use the QRZ or HamQTH subscription services

I hope I have helped in some way.

Peter VK4IU

... yep, that's what happens. You will be much better off with the subscription - even though it has not solved your problem - yet.

Your Internet connection is great. My link works perfectly with Logic - 90ms latency on a Mobile Broadband link to the cell 15 kms away using a Yagi on the roof. I have a rural QTH.

Have you disabled the QRZ.COM page, and moved it to the bottom of the list? Also disable and move everything you are not using for call book lookup to the bottom of the setup list.

Specifically, what are the errors ... post images of them using these tools. Use your albums, using this post, or attach them, and use them as in this post.

Are these still the errors ...

-OLE IDispatch code 0 from msxml3.dll: Access is denied.
-Alias 'QRZTMP' is not found.
-Alias not found.
-Alias 'QRZTMP' is not found.
-Variable 'ERROR' is not found.

The "OLE error" is the important part. The rest from Logic is as a result of that first error. Clearly - there was a permission problem with access to the OLE file. Is this still the case now - post images?

So just before these errors started - what did you install? ... what changed on your PC?

Are you running Logic "As Administrator"? Is the account you are using "an administrator"?

There are so many parts of the puzzle using a PC, that these problems can be more than a little tricky to solve. My experience is that Logic is rarely the problem - just the item that trips over the problem - whatever it is.

Peter VK4IU

G'Day Dan,

Thanks for the detail.

Check the "permissions" on msxml3.dll

On my Windows 7 Professional 64Bit - the permissions are READ, and READ EXECUTE on both 32bit and 64bit files.

Hi Peter...

Thanks again.

I forgot to send the screen shots in my prior email, but assume they are redundant and not required based on the thread of our messages.

I searched my drive for "msxml3.dll" and found about a dozen instances of it. Searched properties of all of them, and they all have "READ" + "READ EXECUTE" permissions.

I get the feeling we are running out of ideas & options.

73

dan
k0dan

I can't stand this web-based forum format. I sent your three detailed responses and all got lost during the shuffling back & forth between 4 or 5 open browser pages.

The long & short of it is the links you sent provide feedback with errors. When I substitute my ID/PWD, I get a session key, but LOGIC/QRZ do not prompt me for a key or other logon info, and this could be the crux of the issue.

I have tested the QRZ Subscriber test link, and when I enter my ID/PWD, it seems to work OK.

No lightbulbs going on for me....you?

73
Dan
K0DAN

... while waiting for the family dinner to cook, I'm the cook for the family, I cranked up my Logic 8 copy. 8.0.105.

QRZ subscription works as expected.

I took a backup copy of the directory. Down graded to 8.0.104.

QRZ lookup still worked OK. I updated to 105 again, still works.

I installed a clean skin copy of Logic 8. Ver 8.0.29 I enabled the QRZ subscription, disabled QRZ web access, and moved the subscription to QRZ to the top. Looked up your K0DAN call manually using the subscription. Worked.

I configured the Main log form window for Automatic call book lookup. I added a record to the Log, entered your call - lookup was made and the log form completed correctly.

All that says to me, your problem is not with Logic - it is with Windows. Clearly something has changed - but what?

I would be searching the Internet for the "error message" with/without the "IDispatch" part, while thinking about "certificates".

Peter VK4IU